The Potential Strength of Jiren or Frieza If Trained by the Gods: An Analysis

When considering characters like Jiren or Frieza, the question often arises: how strong would they be if trained by the Gods? Unlike our protagonist, Gohan, who can become stronger without training, these characters possess unique abilities and motivations. Let's delve into the potential scenarios and analyze their trajectories.

The Case of Gohan

Gohan, like any character, can enhance his own strength without relying on external trainers. If he could even reach the level of Frieza, it is highly unlikely that he would surpass his current state. Even under the tutelage of Frieza, Gohan faces significant risks, including death or a series of Zenkai boosts that might dramatically increase his power.

Assuming Frieza was helpful in Gohan's life and provided the parental guidance he needed, it would still be insufficient for him to achieve godly levels of strength. Gohan might see some mental and spiritual improvements, leading to a more focused energy and thereby a potential new form post mental training and Zenkai boosts. However, the boost in power would be much less than Gohan's experience under King Kai's training, which provided more than a double power increment. This implies that even with rigorous training, Gohan's power might not escalate as exponentially as many fans imagine.

Training with Jiren and Frieza

Now, if we were to consider Jiren or Frieza training under the watchful eye of the Gods, the situation changes dramatically. Both characters possess unparalleled power and a strong desire to overcome their opponents. Training with someone of Jiren's or Frieza's caliber would undoubtedly provoke rapid growth in strength and abilities.

Assuming Jiren or Frieza were not consistently attempting to kill their trainer, they would still benefit immensely from such rigorous training. This scenario would ensure that Gohan (or any analogous character) would always have someone stronger than himself to train with, fostering an accelerated path to godly levels of power.

For instance, if placed in the Hyperspace Battle Training Center (HBTC) during the Black Frieza arc, Gohan could likely achieve the power level of Beerus, the God of Destruction. This estimation, though debatable, illustrates the potential for significant power growth under such training conditions.

Strength from Need vs. Desire

According to the principle that "power comes from a need, not a desire," Gohan has consistently seen power boosts in critical moments. He gained the transformations and powers when he needed them the most—such as to save the universe or protect the world. However, rigorous, long-term training should ideally provide similar, if not more dramatic, power increments.

Training with Jiren or Frieza would likely provide a substantial boost in power, similar to the double power increment Gohan received from King Kai's training. This training would not only grant enhanced physical and spiritual capabilities but also push the character to their limits, potentially unlocking new forms and abilities.

Conclusion

The potential strength of Jiren or Frieza, if trained by the Gods, would be significantly higher than their current levels. This analysis suggests that even without explicit Godly training, consistent and rigorous training with powerful opponents can lead to remarkable power increases. For characters like Gohan, the need to save the universe and protect the world often drives these boosts in power, and similar principles would apply to Jiren and Frieza with proper training.